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Establishing Rights Over Fences & Boundaries

By: Abigail Taylor - Updated: 23 Feb 2020 | comments*Discuss
 
Fence Disputes Neighbours Boundary

Adjoining neighbours can sometimes get into a dispute about the position and ownership of a particular boundary, be it a fence, wall, barrier or some other kind of boundary line. Often the Boundary Disputes will arise when one party wishes to use part of the land for something particular and the adjoining neighbour opposes that on the grounds that the other is encroaching upon their land.

Alternatively, arguments also arise where damage has been done to a particular fence or wall, for example, which then needs repair and the decision over who is going to foot the bill.

How to Establish the Boundary Lines

Usually, the most common way of establishing boundary lines is to check the deeds of the properties involved and, more often than not, there will be a clear demarcation of exactly where the boundaries are. However, this is not a foolproof method as previous owners of the houses concerned may have agreed to alter the boundaries for one reason or another yet have not informed the Land Registry.

Another point to consider is where one party has been using the disputed area of land continuously for the past 12 years. This is something that is termed as 'adverse possession'. It can be quite complex to understand and in this situation, it's better to seek legal advice if the dispute cannot be resolved amicably.

Establishing Boundary Areas Which Aren't on the Deeds

There are certain boundary areas that will not be included within the deeds, such as party walls, hedges and ditches and fences. Most of the time it's simply presumption that determines who owns what and whose responsibility it is to maintain certain boundaries or barriers.

Common presumptions:

  • A fence where the posts are supported on one side would be the responsibility of the person whose side contained the posts
  • If two properties are divided by a hedge and a ditch, the person whose side the hedge is on is responsible as the rightful owner, although there's no presumption if there's a hedge only
  • Interior walls which separate a semi-detached property are usually deemed to be the responsibility of both parties, and any repairs which might be needed are, in most instances, divided between both parties if the damage affects both sides

If you wish to fix an exact boundary, you need to:

  1. Try to agree any unclear areas with your neighbours and all sign an agreement to that effect
  2. Ask a surveyor to draw up a detailed plan
  3. Send both the signed agreement and detailed plan to the Land Registry, along with a completed application (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/exact-line-of-boundary-registration-db), and your application fee (£90)

If you can't agree the boundary line, there are steps that you can take to determine the boundary (see below).

Ways to resolve your dispute

There are several ways in which you can attempt to resolve any issues you have over boundaries:
  • Amicable discussion
  • Mediation
  • Adjudication
  • Courts
Here's an overview of what's involved in each of the above:

Amicable discussion

Disputes over boundaries and your rights can run into several thousand pounds and even six figure sums in more complex cases should you decide to take the matter to court. This can cause immense stress.

The best way to resolve any boundary issues is to try to reach an agreement between both parties. Once an agreement is reached, you can inform the Land Registry of the agreement and fix the boundary. However this comes at a cost, and it may be that you and your neighbour can resolve the issue without needing to formally "fix" the boundary line.

Mediation

In mediation, an independent person is jointly appointed by both parties to "police" discussions. It is very much up to the two sides to reach an agreement. Having someone to help ensure that discussion stays on relevant issues can help with this, but both parties need to approach the discussions with a genuine intent to resolve the matter and appreciate that this will involve some compromise on both sides.

This can be a great and comparatively cheap way to reach an agreement that all parties are happy with. Further, the Courts will often stay (put on hold) proceedings to give parties chance to try to reach a settlement via this method. However the "down side" of mediation is that either party can walk away at any point, and so there is no guarantee that the problem will be resolved.

Should you wish to undertake mediation, an RICS accredited mediator (who specialises in boundary disputes) can be found at http://www.ricsfirms.com/accreditations/mediationaccreditationscheme.

Adjudication

Adjudication involves both parties jointly appointing an independent expert who will decide the dispute for you. Both parties agree to be bound by the adjudicator's decision. Many barristers chambers offer this service.

The advantage of adjudication is that it is speedier than trying to resolve the matter via the courts, and a definite solution will be reached. Further parties will usually not be required to make an appearance in person.

The disadvantage is this can be a very expensive option, and in some cases can be more expensive than using the Court system. It can also create further dispute by parties failing to agree an adjudicator, and spending more time arguing over who will resolve the argument than actually working towards a resolution!

Courts

The Courts are of course available should parties be unable to resolve their dispute amicably. Sometimes this may be the best way of resolving your dispute. However I would advocate careful consideration of the following before applying to the Courts.

1. You will usually need to instruct a solicitor to guide you through the Court processes and assist you to best present your case. Solicitors range from approximately £120ph to over £200ph. You will need a number of hours to allow for consultation with your solicitor, receipt of advice, and preparation of your claim / defence with your solicitor.

2. If you are not successful, there is a risk that you may have to pay at least a portion of the other party's costs, as well as your own.

3. The Courts will usually expect you to have considered and attempted a form of alternative dispute resolution, such as mediation (as discussed above).

4. The Courts often have a several month backlog. When you will be able to have your case heard will depend upon your local court's timetable. However in large city centres, this could be as long as six months, particularly if you have a number of witnesses or a large amount of evidence to be considered.

What is the best way?

Before taking steps to try to determine a boundary, first consider why you need to determine the boundary. The above options have varying costs, however all do come at a cost, and it may actually be cheaper to for example jointly pay the cost of repairing a fence rather than spend money determining whose responsibility it is to do so, particularly if this is likely to be a one-off repair. Also remember that disputes with neighbours may have to be declared should you wish to sell your house, potentially making your property less attractive to buyers.

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Our neighbours have replaced some fencing as its their border.However, they have put the bestside to themselves (facing inwards) I thought if it was their border they should put the fence facing outwards so the I get the best side.Then each neighbour has a best side and their own border side. So I have a good side from my neighbour but the I have to put my border fencing facing outwards. The thing that annoys me is Ive done right by my neighbours and the next door but 1 has done the right thing so the middle neighbour has ended up with two best sides and ive got 2 inward sides.Is there any law about this.I thought the whole purpose of facing your fencing outwards shows its your border.Any advice would be much appreciated.Sorry if ive babbled but sue you will get my drift
Lainey - 23-Feb-20 @ 8:07 AM
I live in a detatched bungalow the boundary of which is to the north -at the back with a high hedge of conifers bordering the cricket club, and the west which is mostly panel fencing.I have maintained these two borders at not insignificant cost for the past 13 years.my neighbour on the other side -whom I get on well with, has a large hedge, 16 feet high which she had never cut.At the back she had a row of 6ft fence panels. I asked if I could cut the hedge at the front she said fine -even recommended someone. Then in the recent storm all her fence panels blew down.I went to tell her and ask if the guy who was going to ment MYfence panels on my side, could give her a quote. She insisted it wasn't her fence and that the previous owner had put up both the fence (with the posts on her side) and also had planted the hedge (whose roots are in her garden, bordering my tar mac drive) Ihave now cut 8 feet off the hedge and paid £250, repaired my fence -for £120, but am I also now responsible for removing her broken fence and building another one? I did get my solicitor to send me a copy of my lease, with my boundary, west and south, outlined in red and gave it to her -but only now does she tell me the previous owner built and planted all her fencing.Where do I stand?
Mc Call - 22-Feb-20 @ 5:04 PM
The fence at the rear of my garden belongs to the neighbouring property to rear. Neighbour recently removed ivy from top which has revealed a row of concrete posts of the type through which was originally passed a wire probably to secure a chain link fence between us. Currently there is a wooden feathered type fence which is secured to the posts by strapping the wooden cross members to the face of the concrete posts on what appears to be on my side which means the fence is approximately 3 inches on my side. Am I correct in thinking that the face of the concrete posts represents the boundary and that anything attached is on my property. The fence was in place when I purchased my house some 30 years ago and I know that my neighbour did not erect the fence as he moved in not long after me, so does the 12 year rule come into play when I could not see the posts because they are completely covered and I would have had to lean over the fence which is approximately 6ft. 6inches high?
Mal - 22-Feb-20 @ 12:50 PM
My neighbour built an oversize extension And wall which has encroach on my side of the boundary by 10cm, we share a semi detached bungalow.They also took down the hedge without my permissionThere is no gutterIng or soakaway. Between the property. The rain water pouring from their new upper extension, is draining on my side, causing damp and an eye sore of a dirty wall.They said they would fix the problem but have not done so yetIv spent hundreds trying to resolve this as the neighbours is not cooperating now I have consulted a solicitor. and they are not responding to the solicitors letters. This has being going on for 4 years, in the meantime , with so much rain, there is water everywhere and going nowhere and causing more damage. I can’t understand how they are behaving. The problems began1year after I moved into the property. How is this fair?No law to prevent these things happening.
Futterfly - 20-Feb-20 @ 1:11 AM
I live in a semidetach house but my side is private and my neighbours are council buying with morgage. The panels on my right side are falling in bits.I have bought a few just to cover a bit the house,because this peple are always checking on us, when I go out I see almost always someone there looking thogh the holes or broken fences.I have had a lot of problems withthem so it's very difficult to have a civilisedconversation with them,they drink a lot and smoke Marihuana in garden and sometimes they put music very loud.so don'tknow what to do if I buy all his going nuts of happiness because they dont spend a penny.
Jellymommy - 16-Feb-20 @ 3:07 PM
Hello My new neighbour would like to replace the fence between our two properties which I am responsible for. He has dogs and would like to make his garden dog proof by replacing the all wooden fence with concrete posts and concrete gravel boards then aris rails and feather edge boards he has agreed to pay the cost of the fence and I am more than happy for him to do so( obviously) However the existing fence is hampered by trees that have grown over the years and also the concrete in the ground which hold the existing posts. We have agreed that the sensible thing to do is to move the fence a few feet onto my property. This is were the problems begin, he wants to get solicitors involved and I’m quite happy just to move the fence and have done with it provided we both sign an agreement saying so. How complicated and costly will it be and because I have a mortgage do they need to be advised. I do hope you can help pointing me in the right direction Many thanks.
Chippy - 4-Feb-20 @ 4:38 PM
At some point within the last 10 -15 years a next door neighbour has built a wall in our garden which has reducedthe original size by about one third.We only became aware of this recently when one of the flat owners wanted to landscape the garden which admittedly, until now has been neglected. How do we begin to tackle this problem as it is pretty clear this is theft of our land?
JellyBelly - 28-Oct-19 @ 11:50 AM
We own an apartment within a hall of residences with the fire hydrant sited underneath our hedge and difficult to access. We would like to relocate it for ease of access and not cut our hedge down but the management company (all property shareholders-1) insist we do. They say it is our hydrant but they are responsible for ‘connecting media’ ie pipes, mains, water etc... and then ‘walls fences hedges ...within or on the boundaries of the Amenity Property except such walls fences or hedges the liability for which is the responsibility of any third party.’ Are they within the law to cut our hedge without our permission to access the hydrant for insurance purposes. Please help.
Lorac - 23-Oct-19 @ 11:57 PM
Our title plan shows a gap between our garage/ back sitting room. Our house is not built up to the boundary. We were told when we moved in by someone who did a 20 minute site inspection that although there was a pathway between our garage and the next doors house they owned more of the pathway and we owned about the width of our gutters. We had a path the other side so we weren’t bothered. Given ours gutters they deviated a bit over 30ft no exact measurement was added to his report. The report must have been very informal as we weren’t shown it for 6 years and the author didn’t sign it. No exact measurements were stated only a range or about x inches . It was very vague but his line drawing was more helpful. We were eventually asked if we agreed with this report when the house next door was being sold. We wrote a memo describing the line drawing was satisfactory. Our new neighbour has always beenvery difficult and after many years has threatened us with court as he is insisting the approx measurement of our gutters stated in the report are exact and the 3 inch land under our gutters is no longer ours . This means our 3 inch drive edging which starts under our gutters running 27ft to the front is n’t ours either. He insists the drive edging that was originally built 65 years which was25 years before his house was built ; rebuilt by us when the roots of his tree destroyed it is now his. He demands the trellis we have erected on this drive edging is removed as we didn’t ask permission. We think his claim is totally without foundation and no court is going to award the land under our gutters and the drive edging we rebuilt 15 years ago is his. But our worry is he has a solicitor that is writing the threatening letters to us so surely must be.ieve he has a chance.
Chris - 15-Oct-19 @ 4:00 AM
Our neighbours house is listed , the old chalk cob Thatched wall is adjoined to their house and runs along to corner of rear of their garden . They had Cottage Thatched but despite wall thatch needing replacing they didn’t do it, they assume it’s a party wall but it’s not attached at all to our property. However, it does need attention as crumbling in places and thatch too low overhang on our side and causes problems to us as painful if head gets scrapped by thatch wire, the thatch is deteriorating and going thin and green and an eyesore to our patio near it. TVBC think it’s definitely their wall as it’s probably listed along with their cottage. We are Thatched but not listed . Govt Property Register have no record of boundary , very old properties, only the usual red lines which neighbours assume means we both maintain it as shared wall. As it’s not in any way attached to our property we don’t agree . They don’t appear to know much at all about Listed Building law etc so it looks like we may have to engage a RICS Surveyor to determine the ownership and responsibilities to maintain it . We have tried to explain this but they don’t seem to grasp the implications, should they or ourselves wish to sell in the near future . Where do we go from here ?
Vee - 11-Oct-19 @ 5:19 PM
My neighbour's hedge is knocking down a boundary fence which has been placed (by a previous owner) well on my side of the boundary. Several years ago I explained to my neighbour that his hedge and roots were damaging the fence, for which I amresponsible, and asked him to clear the hedge from the fence. His response was "I am not moving a hedge for four inches".I am now having to brace my fence with three substantial timbers as the hedge continues to grow and damage the fence.I have againasked the neighbour to remedy the problem and his illogical response is that I can take down the fence and reinstate it on the actual boundary.This would be impossible without taking out his hedge. Does anyone have any suggestions or know the law on this matter.
confused - 8-Oct-19 @ 5:28 AM
Please advise. I live in a semi-detached house that is owned by my local council. Myself and my family have been tenants since 2012. Not long after moving in we purchased and erected wooden fence panels and concrete posts. These were erected between our house and our neighbours house for securing our garden,so that our dogs could not get out. I must point out that the fence is on our garden running parallel to the boundary line but not on the boundary line. When we moved into the property there was no fence between the properties at all,but there was (and still are) two of the original boundary fence posts,one being at the very front of the property and the other at the very rear. Originally there weresmall concrete posts with a wire fence between the properties which over the years had been removed prior to our tenancy. When installing my fence and posts I used the original posts as markers as to where i needed to put my posts while all the time making sure that they were on my own garden and not on the boundary. Now after having problems with my neighbours they have been in contact with my landlords (local council). The council have now contacted me and told me that i am no longer able to maintain or repair the fence as it does not belong to me,which is quite obviously not the case as I purchasedit and still have the receipt stating that. Now my neighbours have attached lights to the fence without my permission. The local council have told me that they do not want to get involved with it. I am at a loss as to what I should do next. I feel that it is wrong and illegal for the council to give my property to my neighbours which to me seems like theft.
K - 7-Oct-19 @ 1:41 PM
My deeds show that I own the fence between me and the neighbours.We have both been here 10 years and I wanted to replace the fence.The problem is that my posts are on the neighbours side and he has told me i can only put up a fence on the posts facing me, as he owns the land between the posts so i cannot drop in panels that screw into the side of the posts.
Joseph Parsons - 5-Oct-19 @ 11:07 AM
Purchased my house and when I moved in was told that my neighbour had purchased a piece of land by my garage from a previous owner.Nothing has been registered with the land registry.The neighbour has admitted that yes her husband bought it but will not produce paperwork.She told me she would ask my seller if she still had a copy of the letter.The neighbour came back to me to say my seller told her she had destroyed all her paperwork.The seller never mentioned changes to the boundaries and on the same form said that she knew no reasons for any disputes with the neighbours.I have now had to instruct a lawyer to request her paperwork to establish who she bought the land from.My seller was in the property for 30 years.What happens if she can’t produce the paperwork, and if she does produce it and it’s my seller that she purchased it from can I claim against my seller for lying on the documents.The seller also told me she was going to leave the fridge on the forms and then took it refused to pay compensation, also did not clear drainage pipes of asbestos, I had to pay for them to be removed.
Tilly - 29-Sep-19 @ 4:14 PM
Purchased my house and when I moved in was told that my neighbour had purchased a piece of land by my garage from a previous owner.Nothing has been registered with the land registry.The neighbour has admitted that yes her husband bought it but will not produce paperwork.She told me she would ask my seller if she still had a copy of the letter.The neighbour came back to me to say my seller told her she had destroyed all her paperwork.The seller never mentioned changes to the boundaries and on the same form said that she knew no reasons for any disputes with the neighbours.I have now had to instruct a lawyer to request her paperwork to establish who she bought the land from.My seller was in the property for 30 years.What happens if she can’t produce the paperwork, and if she does produce it and it’s my seller that she purchased it from can I claim against my seller for lying on the documents.The seller also told me she was going to leave the fridge on the forms and then took it refused to pay compensation, also did not clear drainage pipes of asbestos, I had to pay for them to be removed.
Tilly - 29-Sep-19 @ 4:07 PM
My neighbour recently built a large shed in his rear garden bordering my garden. There is a 220 mm thick block wall forming the party wall between us. He used the boundary wall, without consulting me, as a scaffold to put the steel roof panels into place on the side of the pitched roof shed next to my garden . When he had finished the shed I noticed that during heavy rain the runoff from the roof of the shed actually deposited rainwater into my garden. I complained to Kilkenny CC about this. Sime months later he returned to the shed and fitter a gutter to the side of the shed next to my property using the party wall as a scaffold while he did it. The gutter he fitted overhangs the party wall by an average of 140mm and when it rained heavily it stained the party wall on my side. I complained to KCC further about this. Some months later he came back to the shed and changed the slope of the gutter and fitted a downpipe so the rainwater now exits into some waste land beyond the end boundary wall. I have asked KCC to issue an enforcement order against him to remove the shed. They are considering it but have not given me any answer as yet. Have I got a good case in asking for its removal ?
Kieran - 18-Sep-19 @ 4:36 PM
My mum and sister live next door to each other and when my dad was alive he agreed to them putting a gate into the fence so they could gain access to my mums garden, my dad recently passed away and there has been a big fall out. Now my sister is in the process of selling her house and my mu. Doeant was strangers walking through her back garden can any one help. We have tried to talk but they wont
Nicki - 5-Sep-19 @ 7:39 AM
Just having purchased an end terrace . I own the right of way there a covenant of easement with regard to 3 houses to my left . The right of way runs from the right hand of my drive to the in straight line to the border at the back then goes behind my neighbours rear gardens which is fine . Their access was known to me when i purchased the house. While i was on holiday the neighbour to the right put a gateway onto my property hinges on my side so gate swings over my side . I asked why she had put the gate in ,as it was my land . She replied " its my fence can as i like with " asked what she was going to use it for replied " its non of your business.Legally what am i allowed to do with the gate .
Millrace - 14-Aug-19 @ 5:52 PM
I have moved into a semi detached house and recently discovered my neighbours patio that he built some 25 years ago encoaches onto my land by 12 inches. I am building a patio to the same height. Am I within my rights to reclaim the boundary linethe previous owner and my neighbour have never notified the land register office of any changes.
Paulwt - 9-Aug-19 @ 7:58 PM
We live in a twitten (alleyway) and consists of four 200 year old cottages.Facing the twitten from our cottages is a 10 foot wall that was built at the end of the garden of the main property in front of us.It was in bad condition, dirty and rusty motorbikes etc. lodged against it. In the recent years we (all of the cottage owners) have painted the wall and now have plants in pots along the twitten in front of our cottages and also along the base of the wall. We also have some hanging baskets which are nailed to our facing side of the wall.The owner of the wall does not come to the property anymore due to ill health but he liked what we had done with the plantsthe last time we saw him.He has a man who does odd jobs in his house and who has threatened us with "I am going to rip off your flowersetc. and that we have no right to put anything on or against his side of the wall."It has become rather nasty and threatening due to our removing ivy that came from the garden and grew up a telephone pole in the twitten and BT told us that the ivy had to be removed - which we did but since then we have had so many nasty confrontations etc. Can you please advise us as we are pensioners and feel a bit anxious over his behaviour including shouting etc.
Ellie - 17-Jul-19 @ 12:21 PM
Hi I have an house which is joined by neighbour however my neighbour says I cannot leave my car on my drive as he has the right to use my drive to take out his bins we have the drive which is just on our side he says this is on his deeds we have looked into this however this is not on the land registry is this legal
Max - 10-Jul-19 @ 8:11 PM
Hi. My house was split in the '70s to form two properties and this along with property boundaries are clearly recorded by land registry. There is a third property (detached) adjoining ours that was part of the original 'farm' area. Our registry documents show the adjoining boundary line with the third property but there are no land registry documents available for the third property as the house has been in the same family for many years. The third property is tenanted with the elderly owner living in another county. The person ‘purporting’ to be authorized to manage the owners' affairs has commissioned a boundary assessment with the intention of disputing positions of current fencing. Our registry documents, during conveyancing, are clear on the boundaries. The previous owner left his conveyancing documents with us (he had lived in our property for 20 years) and these documents clearly show the boundary for our property as it is today. How many years must a boundary be in place in the UK before a landowner can reclaim land? I believe that the boundaries are as they were when the land around the now three properties were distributed (when the farm was split up). Where do I and my attached neighbor stand if the third property has no public records for us to view to establish if the boundary survey commissioned by the owner is accurate as there is no reference point from which to argue the position other than our registry documents? Thanks for your help with this
Angela - 5-Jul-19 @ 1:12 PM
We brought a new build detached house 10 months ago, all in sudden my neighbour moved his back garden gate forward stopping my access to other side of my house and putting all his rubbish towards my house wall causing unpleasant look and closing my vent. When we brought the house estate agent sated that whatever space come after footpath belongs to you. But we noticed when we received the land registry it looks belong to them. there is no space between our house wall and the land between my house wall and footpath. My question is are they allowed to move gate forward stopping my accessto other side of house , my bathroom window open to that side also. this isour dream home and ended up like this. Estate agent ignoring the fact that space between by wall and footpath.Where can I get some help to sort out this problem please?
MARY - 26-Jun-19 @ 9:39 AM
Hi just want to ask we have a shared pathway with fence each of us at our backyard and it was at both boundaries and we use that for more than 10 yrs but my neighbour close their door going to the shared pathway and instead they used their back for entrance in their driveway and house but a new owner want to move their fence at the boundaries of the shared pathway are they allowed to do that ?
Marnie - 26-Jun-19 @ 4:47 AM
my mum had to erect a fence from the centre of the two properties losing six inches the people who lived there said you cannot put the fence in the centre of the drive my mum has lost 6 inches erecting a fence due to there drive being higher the neighbours have screwed a fence into one of our concrete posts I know it is not right have I got the authority to cut the screws that is holding their fence we have 6ft 3ln on our side they have 6ft 9in on theirs my mum has lived there snide the houses were built in 1972the neighbours had a dropped curb and said if you want to erect a fence it will be on your side so we have a boundary fence they have no rights to hold a fence screwed into our concrete posts am I right
dirtyrotten - 25-Jun-19 @ 7:24 PM
I am selling my house and about 14 years ago my neighbour got a conservatory and asked me if she could take 10ins of my decking as she was to close. I had no problem with this .my neighbour has since moved and never gave any information to the new buyer.I have no problem with my new neighbours but i would like to no if my selling my property will not affect them as it was done alot of years ago
hazy - 15-Jun-19 @ 3:27 PM
My neighbours have nailed new slats onto our boundary fence on top of the original slats which are 2m high being 20cm higher than the previous slats and the posts which are 1.8m. Is this deemed to be outwith the parmeteres of blending in with the existing fence?I am also concrened about the weight the posts will now burden from the additional slats. My view is now very unsightly from my garden. What are my legal rights?
Moo - 12-Jun-19 @ 3:00 PM
Hi, by law is there a required distance that has to be kept between a neighbours back door and my boundry fence? Thanks
Becky - 11-Jun-19 @ 7:06 PM
i want to build a 3 ft fence my side of a boundary line separating my neighbors garden with my driveway. The reason behind the request is to stop children from running across my drive. The neighbiur has declined and has advised it is illegal and that due to the estate being open plan it cannot be actioned. Can someone advise me ?
Milster - 31-May-19 @ 10:24 PM
Hi my neighbours have put a new 6ft fence they did ask me if I wanted to keep my side of the panelled fence I said yes as this forms the back drop to my late mums memorial garden and would also leave a space between my decking and their new fence making it some what unsafe.The fence has gone up and there is a gap between my fence and their new fence as she says she has lost 6 inches I have asked her how she plans to maintain the piece of land which is still technically part of her garden and the fence as again this is technically only in her garden and not mine.Where do I stand she is avoiding answering me.PS the fence only went up on Tuesday and as we used to be good friends I am finding this all rather upsetting but don't want to be taken for a fool either :(
Caz - 30-May-19 @ 9:17 AM
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